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#1 fish man

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Posted 01 April 2004 - 01:08 AM

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I have been a fish hobbiest for about 18 years and have had hundreds of types of fish over the years. about two years ago I had a texas chiclid (cichlasoma carpinte) and a managuense produce offspring. the new breed of fish are starting to spawn themselves, I was wondering how common this combonation might be or if at all. if not at all, does anyone know who to talk to about documentation and naming of the species? ;) I would like to hear about anyone elses experience with cross breeding :) I even have pictures of the parents protecting the swarm of fry.the pair of mismatched chiclids were a breeding pair no matter what tank they were moved to. the male texas chiclid was eventually killed by one ov my red devils. the offspring are very pretty and are in their own large aquarium. they litteraly are 50/50 of the two types of chiclids, and are very aggressive :angry:

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Posted 23 May 2004 - 06:25 AM

There is nothing you can do to get these offspring their own scientific name. I do believe that the only species that have their own scientific name are the ones found in the wild.

If we gave scientific names to all crossbred fish than there would be literally thousands and thousands of extra breeds of fish. The OB Peacock is one of the more popular crossbreeds and it does't have a scientific name, and the same thing goes for the Blood Red Peacock (name varies from place to place).

These offspring are not natural, and should not be sold or given to your friends as such. I know if I bought a Texas Cichlid and when it grew up it had some of the Green Terror markings than I would be pretty pissed. People go to fish stores and buy a fish thinking they are getting one thing, and when the fish matures have something totally different. And some of this is due to crossbreeding.

I have a cross bred juvie in my tank right now, and I am moving soon. If I have to give up my fish when I move than I will not hesitate to euthanise (sp) him.

This is actully a pretty touchy subject with some collectors, and they will do what they can to get rid of crossbred juvies if they have them...I am not that extreme.

Jeff

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Posted 25 May 2004 - 12:33 AM

I totally agree with Jeff.

Most people will suggest that you cull any fry of questionable parentage. There are so many hybrids out there already. I really don't have a problem with people keeping hybrids, its when people start selling them that I believe it becomes a problem. Things can quickly get out of hand.

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Posted 25 May 2004 - 09:52 AM

I agree with Jeff and snatched. While you may sell them as what they are, a hybrid, There are many dealers who may through ignorance or blatant miss representation try to sell them as a natural species. This is already a problem within the hobby and should be prevented as much as possible.

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 07:29 AM

Let me just say that this is all a pretty disgusting attitude to take towards fish.
Not only is it disgusting to euthanize a fish that doesn't fit into your obnoxiously high-maintenance needs,
but it is this desire to keep breeds separate that has lead to Hole in the Head disease in many popular
species of fish.

I think the cross-breeds sound really cool, and don't let these eugencists tell you otherwise.



There is nothing you can do to get these offspring their own scientific name. I do believe that the only species that have their own scientific name are the ones found in the wild.

If we gave scientific names to all crossbred fish than there would be literally thousands and thousands of extra breeds of fish. The OB Peacock is one of the more popular crossbreeds and it does't have a scientific name, and the same thing goes for the Blood Red Peacock (name varies from place to place).

These offspring are not natural, and should not be sold or given to your friends as such. I know if I bought a Texas Cichlid and when it grew up it had some of the Green Terror markings than I would be pretty pissed. People go to fish stores and buy a fish thinking they are getting one thing, and when the fish matures have something totally different. And some of this is due to crossbreeding.

I have a cross bred juvie in my tank right now, and I am moving soon. If I have to give up my fish when I move than I will not hesitate to euthanise (sp) him.

This is actully a pretty touchy subject with some collectors, and they will do what they can to get rid of crossbred juvies if they have them...I am not that extreme.

Jeff



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Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:20 AM

i love hybrids and i myself have sucesfully reared my own hybrid witch is between the convict, sajica and the jade eye cichlid. they are beautifully coloured and mild tempered. there is nothing wrong with experimenting combinations of fish.

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:21 AM

double post i know, just to piss off those pure fish guys.

I HAVE SOLD MORE THAN 100 OF THEM.




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